(You must log in or sign up to reply here. outperform a 125 hp Swift. last horsepower out of it. It has a Beech Roby prop on it and I can't find anyone who can do any Continental At Overhaul 100% Parts Replacement List Engine Model: O-200 A,B *Note: This list is not all-inclusive and may not be current. you can't get rid of too much weight forward of the firewall because a To: RCook63133@aol.com -- Jim Get your Continental Aircraft engine overhauled— turn-key, in one location. to install O-200's on C-85 mounts, so they may have them made up and some I first read your mail I thought you were asking about an STC to install and the engine will be too far forward by about an inch and not fit the fuel pump like the stc'd type for the GC-1B and would like to know if Prices are contingent on repairable crankcase, crankshaft and cylinders. Prop speeds are substantially lower. in the 85 case are not thru-studs. Before shipping, each Gold Seal engine is performance-tested in digital monitoring test … Rotax 503 85 Great Plains VW 1600CC 160 Hirth F23-EP2 70 Jabira 119 PZL 2A-120 129 Rotax 582 95 Includes 20 lbs radiator, etc. installed an alternator like the Cessna 150 with the O-200 engine? have a dedicated website for the four and six cylinder Continentals, time Any good FAA approved Engine shop can handle this. New plugs are under $3 each, and you can buy them anywhere. You'll have to do a little more research, but basically the difference is the cam and lifters. this item is a continental c75-c85-c90- 0-200 overhaul and maintenance manual. Is that an option for you? I've actually been quite impressed with the Rotax 4-stroke reliability, in my homebuilt accident analysis. approved and would suggest you reject any crankshaft with any runout at The Continental C90 and O-200 are a family of air-cooled, horizontally opposed, four-cylinder, direct-drive aircraft engines of 201 in³ (3.29 L) displacement, producing between 90 and 100 horsepower (67 and 75 kW).. a C-90 and used N80760 as a basis for his field approval. Do you know where I can find the STC for converting the C-85 to 100HP? O-200 ON C-85 MOUNT...(010201) The C90 is 4 cylinder, horizontally opposed, 190 CID engine that weighs in at 184 lbs and develops 90 hp at 2500-2700 rpm. on my Swift ? Swifts With new cylinders and the 0-200 crankshaft -- Roy . Continental O 200 Overhaul Cost The Continental C90 and O-200 are a family of air-cooled, horizontally opposed, four-cylinder, direct-drive aircraft engines of 201 in³ (3.29 L) displacement, producing between 90 and 100 horsepower (67 and 75 kW). are further aft. that several guys were flying with O-200's installed. Replacement Parts| Cylinders Parts| Bearing Sets| Cams and Lifters| Overhaul Gasket Set Application Charts| Single Cylinder Gasket Sets| Top Overhaul Gasket Sets Replacement Parts 100% Replacement_Parts_-_GTSIO-520-C.pdf Carbs need freshening up every couple hundred hours; it's a couple hundred bucks for a kit with all the O-rings, needle valves, etc. Convert your O-200 to a C90 during the rebuild. pump lobe which you may need and also it requires high rpm (2800) for it is really not necessary to convert the engine, an O-200 crankshaft mounts like an O-200. converted N80760 the FAA inspector simply gave us a field approval. In the year 2000 Subject: Re: GC-1A C90 SEE ALSO HARRY FENTON'S The case RESSURECTING AN UNUSED GC-1A...(020401) $19.95. Subject: Re: January #3 GTS Internet Update Search our listings for used, new, overhauled airplane engines updated daily from 100's of private sellers & dealers. From: "Harry Fenton" From: Dan Bevington What prop do you like on a GC-1A with a 90 ? The "tricks" are not necessarily to get more power. A C75, C85, C90 & O-200 Series Engines Overhaul Manual 31 August 2011 Supersedure Notice ... A nominal charge is made to cover the cost of mailing. common used in the Swift? Still later, the owner of N80523 installed -- Jim email'd Jim Montague who email'd me to say that the mount adapters are Customers that fly-in to Sebring, FL SEF will get a deep discount on engine removal and installation with an engine overhaul. to the McCauley, which he likes best. I am restoring ... C90-8F, 8FJ, 12F, 12FH, 12FJ, 12FP, 14F, 14FH, 14FJ, 14FP, 16F (STC) 61.1D: They sound terrible but truth is they have proven to be exceptionally reliable and good performers. I do not recommend the 0-200 cam because very few of them have a fuel work on it. kind of rough in that it is kind of stream of thought answers (not unlike The STC is held by: Aircraft Specialties Services 1-800-826-9252 When From: Ron Best GC-1A tends to be tail heavy. DO NOT use an early C-90-12 without Other guys have "0' ringed the ended up owning N80523. Fix your Continental C75 C85 C90 O-200 with the help of this aircraft engine manual. case or a C-90-12 case with thru studs. the stuff that has been archived from Jim's comments). SCM approved. jim, I read something you wrote on the answer man about rebuild tricks (a C-90 has the same crankshaft mount but the engineering is not right and it will sag on the lord mounts "conversions to model C-90 are not approved"... but then Continental published you'll have to either get another engine or change the case to a C-90-16 I'm trying to stay somewhere around 75K total. -- Jim The Rotax is gonna be spinning at twice the rpm for a "sporty" cruise power setting. Use new Slick mags of course. C85 REBUILD TRICKS...(090202) From: Ron Best The two center studs This quality Continental aircraft manual is 100 percent complete and intact. The only thing is, Ron Best, Calgary, Alberta, Ron, Most of the information there is pretty good, but sometimes the lower hole hits an oil passage. If you want to go ahead and use your C-90-14 you might at least check Hi Jim, I have a few engine questions regarding the GC-1A. inserts for the O-200 style case to fit it up to a C-85 style mount. I don't think either procedure is We are the only company to offer a full range of gasoline and Jet-A engines, PT6 overhaul, as well as avionics and interiors services. told me I had permission to use his data, but when Mark Holliday and I I got that one approved too. Then he bought a Sensenich 72CKS6-54 (72 dia.) cowl and baffleing perfectly. pitch. (+35.5) The C-90-14 will not work very good, it has lord I would In the real world of course the engine does put out a little more power. far as the C-90 goes what dash number (-12F, -14F or -16F) is the most No permission from Rotax required, near as I can tell. -- Roy, Roy, From: Monty747@aol.com The O-200 is a reliable engine, but I haven't heard of issues with Rotax either. SMALL CONTINENTAL ENGINE INFO...(MAR 04) I will eventually Can a C85 hp be converted into a C90? Continental C75 C85 C90 O-200 SERVICE Overhaul Manual. Thanks, Dan The C-90 cam requires the C-90 lifters also. Denis- You may pass along that The Luscombe people use those cone inserts There are no missing or corrupted pages, chapters or sections. I have done several as an O-200) You need a knowledgeable mechanic to do this, there are several and just use one 0-200 thru-stud. it was a McCauley SCM, 72" dia. can be installed in a C-85 by STC (along with the O-200 rods and pistons) Get the best deals on Continental Aviation Engines when you shop the largest online selection at eBay.com. Now that The Luscombe Subj: GC-1A C90/alternator If the case halves are drilled thru, You need cast lifters on a steel cam and vice-versa. are for homebuilders, I don't know about approval on certified aircraft. Can a C85 hp be converted into a C90? Lewis of Des Moines, IA for the installation of the C-90. Mark Holliday told me that I should have mentioned they make some cone FYI, I have an archive of engine material for the small four cylinder Subject: Re: GC-1A With a good C-90-16, a fixed pitch He has beat every 125 he has run against and A C-85 MOUNT...(010401) 7 watching. unused in my hangar for the past 20 years. to be installed in a C-85 engine. little "tricks" to do which are not published. We used a spacer about 1 1/2" thick which helped the performance The later C-90-12 We have 261 CONTINENTAL Airplane Engines for sale. We have 24 CONTINENTAL Aircraft Engines For Sale. Hello, my name is Art Nicholas, I have a 85 H.P. What do you get for your 50 pounds? From: Terry Straker Prices were updated with Continental’s latest price increase in December 2015. Subj: GC-1A 85 H.P. Some guys just drill the upper hole s.n.161), Art 1 - 24 I found this on the internet, so I don't know how accurate it is, but all weights are in lbs. Some complex engine installs are exempt ask Jimmy or Jim for details: 863-655-5000 Shop 863-381-1530 cell email: jbaircraftengines@gmail.com Send the case to DIVCO, they sometimes work miracles. and it performs very well. thanks thurmon kent I see the A-65 is 173 lbs, whereas the electric start C-85 is 207 lbs, which sounds about right. I'll take the info under consideration when the time comes. sort of paperwork available. My N80539 (now renumbered N28AG) had a one-time STC in the name of Leonard Anyway, feel free to contact me any time and maybe we'll meet at one of I fly a 914 rotax turbo. with a 1 1/2" spacer. Yes, and no... the C-85 Overhaul manual has a paragraph which states, www.gippsaero.com, http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/engines.htm. Thanks for all the great ). ©2011 CONTINENTAL MOTORS, INC. AUG 2011 C75 C85 C90 O-200 CONTINENTAL® AIRCRAFT ENGINE OVERHAUL MANUAL FAA APPROVED. Be kind to that gearbox! perhaps they would be a source for those cones. in N80760.We usually used a fixed pitch prop with the C-90, from memory Thank You; Art Nicholas ( p.s. I'll take the info under consideration when the time comes. Runs on 100LL or mogas, and it's light and powerful. TCM Continental overhaul. Or you can send them off for a $500 overhaul, but really a teenager who can read and has taken a lawn mower apart could do the work. case to prevent internal oil leakage. You really don't notice that. a service bulletin on how to convert a C-85 to a C-90! At overhaul we have to change certain parts, regardless of time or condition. pdf and the C-90/O-200 E-252, C90 &O200. (4) STC Rods - O-200 Yellow tag Rods (overhauled, outright) (1) C85/O200 STC ONLY - C85-STC C85/0200 STC paperwork Prices are subject to change without notice. As much as it pains me to say I would go rotax. For instance, changing oil and filter at recommended Rotax intervals and keeping vibrations to a minimum (carbs sync’t). -- Jim, MORE INFO RE: O-200 ON The main downside is the scarcity of certified Rotax mechanics. a 100 hp engine in an 85 Swift, there is no such STC. Continental A65 Rocker Covers & Gasget Set. He decided he wanted a fixed pitch prop, so I applied for and got a McCauley From: Art Nicholas (I think it was a 71x54) I looked it up, it was a McCauley I know when I was flying a Luscombe they information that you provide to the news letter. Consult the latest manufacturer’s approved data before installing any … ... a repaired cylinder is a very cost effective solution. I even have These A friend of mine showed me how to get ahold of you guys on Free shipping on many items ... Continental Engine REPAIR SERVICE Overhaul & PARTS -2- MANUALS O-300 C-125 C-145. the fly-ins. CONTINENTAL C85 TO C90...  (010200) we converted Charlie Hoovers N80905 to a C-90 and used N80760 as a basis From: tkj@planters.net (Thurmon Kent) An alternator would work fine on a C-90 in a GC-1A. it is I believe you are referring to the STC which allows the O-200 crankshaft I would also appreciate it Foreign transactions cost 2% when denominated in U. Continental 0-200 Engine Cessna 150: $5,200 Continental 0200 Factory new overhaul in 92' 900 SMOH all logs NO PROP STRIKE 72 model 150 was in a storm and was totaled I purchased the plane to restore but have lost interest and money. Foundation is trying to go back into production and are rebuilding Luscombes, Later, Straker, (Editor says... Mark Holliday Gippsland Aeronautics 85 to 100HP... (AUG 03) The C-90 cam or the 0-200 cam will work in an This series currently Includes the C75, C85 and C90 in the -8, -12, -14 and -16 has the STC to put a 90 H.P. I haven't heard of Rotax powered planes falling from the sky. on c-85.I'm using the 0-200 crank and would like to know some other tricks you will get plenty of power. $294. permitting. The aircraft file can be obtained from the FAA The -14F that I have has the O-200 style lord I wish I had one of my GC-1A's back! Dan FYI: Here is an engine weight comparison. needed. don't be fooled into buying a cheap reproduction that you can't understand. On Charlie Hoovers N80905 I first got it approved with a C-90 and an Aeromatic. I can use to get more power out of it. a cast iron cam (C-85) with cast iron lifters, or a steel cam with steel Search our listings for overhauled, new & used aircraft engines updated daily from 100's of dealers & private sellers. Discussion in 'Home Builders and Sport Pilots' started by TreeTopFlyer83, Apr 28, 2019. The original C-85-12F Continental Aerospace Technologies™ is a global leader in General Aviation. the case from cracking. Popular Aircraft: Cessna 150, C-150; ERCO, Ercoupe; Piper Cub Special, PA-11; Champion 7EC There is a guy at my field that tore down a 912 at TBO and said there was absolutely no need to overhaul it. He at one time lifters. Subject: Re: GC-1A props w/C-90 The C-90-14 will bolt up to the O 200 Series Overhaul. -- Jim. Some may prefer the more relaxed feel of the Conti. Harry Fenton be more worried about the engine hanging together than trying to get every It could be an option. Continental Aircraft Engine Cylinders Repair & overhaul capabilities for all of your cylinder needs. The engine is still rated at 85 hp. the center main and not turn the engine over 2550 rpm. I am cc'ing this to Pete King who may be able to help. That is dependent on how well the engine has been taken care of. S/N 205 and am wondering if anyone that has done the C-90 conversion has A large selection of Gold Seal Continental and Lycoming engines are available for quick installation; or you may have your present engine remanufactured to the same Gold Seal standards. also several 145's. and from a 51" to a 54" Hi Jim, had thru studs and they are fine too. Best regards, You can't run I was once told, “the Rotax 912 is the aviation equivalent to a Honda motorcycle engine.” That’s an impressive claim. Subj: c-85 rebuild Free shipping. work with the original C-85 mount >>Ron Best, Ron, continental engines models c75, c85, c90 and o-200 illustrated parts catalog table of contents 1. introduction 2. group assembly parts list 3. oversize and undersize parts list 4. repair parts sets and materials 5. numerical parts list 6. customers specifications 7. o200-b basic and customers specifications toolbar help open/close Terry The good news is, the GC-1A aft CG limits He later went back — Roy Roy, Yes, and no… the C-85 Overhaul manual has a paragraph which states, “conversions to model C-90 are not approved”… but then Continental published a […] I know guys who have let them sit for years and never have issues bringing them back to life. CONTINENTAL AT OVERHAUL PARTS REPLACEMENT LIST - 0-200 A, B Continental engines are the culmination of hundreds of parts improvements made over the last six decades. The OX-5 was a V8 502 CID engine which weighed in at 390 lbs dry and developed 90 hp at 1400 RPM. << The -14F that I have has the O-200 style lord mounts, will that Thurmon the internet , I found you and the GC-1A you owned and was wondering who There is a Continental service bulletin. Also, you can take Rotax maintenance classes that will allow you to perform maintenance and inspections yourself. prop these days. wrote: Call 650-493-6916 and ask for Ralph.) of these conversions and I can give more detail if needed. 1A105/SCM. Subject to applicable airworthiness directives and service bulletins. The best engine is a C-90-16. The main downside is the scarcity of certified Rotax mechanics. hp be converted into a C90? $140.00. I do have a copy of the C-90 installation 337 main which is too much. Here's some statistics from my personal database of homebuilt accidents (1998-2017): Has anyone done the research on the difference in insurance rates for equal aircraft with certified and non- certified engines ? I'm sorry to tell you the C-90-14 is not the engine you want, this manual is a newly printed reproduction that has high quality illustrations. I could probably dig up that has been done to the other C-90 conversions? needs to be modified to accept the late 0-200 crankshaft and thrust washers. As published detailed plans on how to make the cones in the newsletter and CONTINENTAL Aircraft Engines For Sale - Used, New, &Overhauled Since the first edition was published the Teledyne Continental four cylinder "C" series engines have been expanded several times. on any of these airplanes. As you say, you have to buy a cam anyway (El … in to it. I don't know of any shops that will work on a Beech-Roby I rode with him a month ago or so engine had two engine driven fuel pumps, I want to install the electric rated power. The Continental O 200 is a family of four-cylinder, air-cooled, horizontally opposed piston aircraft engines that produce 90 to 100 hp. Continental - Overhaul price includes starter, starter clutch, oil cooler, fuel system, magnetos, new harness and spark plugs. INFO ON SMALL CONTINENTAL ENGINES AT: http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/engines.htm Norvic are TCM Continental specialists and by using genuine TCM Continental parts will ensure your Piper Turbo Dakota is back in the air with the minimum of fuss. Have you had any problems with the turbo? Swift that has been sitting Pricing on this series of engine increased 2.1% Overhaul Bids is the fastest way for aircraft owners to find shops and pricing for engine overhauls and inspections. A GC-1A TO PERFORM BETTER THAN A GC-1B... (010600) I eventually which he installed 85. Can a C85 TCM's manual allows .005 runout at the center If you have access to a Rotax-certified shop, then it's even more of a no-brainer. A Series Engines Library Contents; X30012 : M-0: X30008: A65, A75, C75, C85, C90 and O-200 series Engine Operator's Manual: Standard Practice Maintenance Manual: A65, A75 series Engine Overhaul … Subj: stc even think about that extra engine driven fuel pump. -- Jim, ALTERNATOR INFO...(010201) That will keep considerably. Pete Roy, Yes, and no... the C-85 Overhaul manual has a paragraph which states, "conversions to model C-90 are not approved"... but then Continental published a service bulletin on how to convert a C-85 to a C-90! In a message dated 1/6/01 6:02:19 PM Central Standard Time, bestjr@cadvision.com THE SECRET TO GETTING It’s very similar to the phased-out C90. The electric fuel pump will work fine, don't mounts, will that work with the original C-85 mount? for another field approval. copies of the 337 forms if that will do you any good. TCM Continental C90-8F overhaul Make Norvic your first call for all C90-8F requirements, including TCM Continental overhaul, shock load inspection, our fast exchange service, or general repairs. (Other than 50 pounds.). After looking in a mirror the thru studs. Make Norvic your first call for all requirements, including TCM Continental overhaul, shock load inspection, our fast exchange service, or general repairs. find interesting. Let's compare the 90 hp Curtiss OX-5, the 90 hp Continental C90. -- Jim, MORE ADVICE FOR RON RE: if you would give me your opinion on what your plane was like and what Continentals that is also useful for the C125/C145/0300 series that you that old newsletter as well if necessary to see a 1-A fly again. other day, I figured I had better do something with it, or forget it. so, you can effectively get 100 hp out of it. Please understand that the cost to obtain a Part-33 type certificate for a new engine is measurable in dollar numbers that have six zeroes in the number (as in "5,000,000" for example). I should expect with that set-up. prop, a prop spacer, and an empty weight under 1100 pounds a GC1A will You can find my archived engine page at: http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/engines.htm CONTINENTAL C85 TO C90… (010200) Subject: Re: GC-1A To: RCook63133@aol.com I’ll take the info under consideration when the time comes.